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jmyhld · Jul 28, 2009, 01:19 PM // 13:19

atleast, thats what i think. whenever i see a cool guild i would be interested joining, i get the same answer if i ask them where the guildies are mostly from; USA.

now that doesnt matter much to me, but it would mean that if i want to play with the guys, id have to stay up till like 3-4 am. which i cant do cause i have a job etc.

ive been looking for a well established, EU based highend pve guild, but it seems that theyre just not there. or atleast, they dont have recruitment posts.

i would like to hear fellow europeans about this matter, and offcourse everyones elses input is welcome too

xron · Jul 28, 2009, 01:36 PM // 13:36

I understand your concern and can see where you are coming from.

However I disagree that there are no european based guilds/alliances that are decent.

All but 2 of our members are EU based and we were in an alliance until recently that is also based in Europe.

The guilds you find may not do exactly what you want, all the time but that doesn't mean that they aren't good guilds. Also it's hard to find perfect guilds whether US or EU based anyway.

I'm very happy with our guild, as we play for fun and enjoy the company of friends in the guild; so it is possible to find what you're after. You just have to search a little harder

Spiritweaver · Jul 28, 2009, 01:41 PM // 13:41

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Originally Posted by jmyhld

atleast, thats what i think. whenever i see a cool guild i would be interested joining, i get the same answer if i ask them where the guildies are mostly from; USA.

now that doesnt matter much to me, but it would mean that if i want to play with the guys, id have to stay up till like 3-4 am. which i cant do cause i have a job etc.

ive been looking for a well established, EU based highend pve guild, but it seems that theyre just not there. or atleast, they dont have recruitment posts.

i would like to hear fellow europeans about this matter, and offcourse everyones elses input is welcome too

I know how you feel. What makes this worse is most of them sit in the US districts now as well which makes them harder to find.

Alot of the really good guilds are more internationally based though as they attract a wider range of people.

Eddie Frenzy Spam · Jul 28, 2009, 02:39 PM // 14:39

All you have to do is take a look at the top 100 GvG ladder to see how wrong you are. The majority of it is European.

Spiritweaver · Jul 28, 2009, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Not everyone is into PvP. The OP specifically mentioned PvE guilds in his post.

Better than that, the chances of your average Guild Wars player getting into a top 100 guild that is European is probably not that great.

I think he has a pretty valid point to be honest.

Hyru Jin · Jul 28, 2009, 03:28 PM // 15:28

Yes, same concern here. At the moment I´m in a Luxon FFF MQSC guild to max luxon, but when I have done that I will have to look for a decent HM PvE Title/hunting guild again.

Not looking forward to it.

EDIT: If anyone has found a decent PvE HM Guild you can always PM me.

savage vapor 33 · Jul 28, 2009, 03:49 PM // 15:49

Guildwars.com
Guild Ladder

See the percentage of Euro guilds vs. everyone else...

And you think they are having a hard time? QQ more please.

Hyru Jin · Jul 28, 2009, 03:55 PM // 15:55

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Originally Posted by jmyhld

ive been looking for a well established, EU based highend pve guild, but it seems that theyre just not there. or atleast, they dont have recruitment posts.

Read posts before replying plOx? PvE Guilds. Stop talking about the guildladder. GvG =/= PvE.

Thanks.

FireFox · Jul 28, 2009, 03:55 PM // 15:55

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Originally Posted by Spiritweaver

Not everyone is into PvP. The OP specifically mentioned PvE guilds in his post.

Better than that, the chances of your average Guild Wars player getting into a top 100 guild that is European is probably not that great.

I think he has a pretty valid point to be honest.

Way to completely miss the point.. do you honestly think that the percentages aren't going to be similar for pve guilds? Do a little thinking..

jmyhld · Jul 28, 2009, 03:57 PM // 15:57

im talking about pve and not about pvp

Spiritweaver · Jul 28, 2009, 04:15 PM // 16:15

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Originally Posted by FireFox

Way to completely miss the point.. do you honestly think that the percentages aren't going to be similar for pve guilds? Do a little thinking..

Yes I do. This is from experience, not from thinking. I have already stated my reasons why. Maybe if you read what I posted already you would have seen this.

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I know how you feel. What makes this worse is most of them sit in the US districts now as well which makes them harder to find.

Alot of the really good guilds are more internationally based though as they attract a wider range of people.

Now, please show me where all these well established high end PvE guilds are that are mostly European. I would like to see this high percentage. Note, European high end PvE guilds, not top 100 PvP guilds. There is a significant difference there in what the OP is looking for.

Using statistics from a PvP ladder hardly helps here. Also bare in mind that just because the guild was created in Europe it doesn't necessarily mean it is still under European control either.

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atleast, thats what i think. whenever i see a cool guild i would be interested joining, i get the same answer if i ask them where the guildies are mostly from; USA.

now that doesnt matter much to me, but it would mean that if i want to play with the guys, id have to stay up till like 3-4 am. which i cant do cause i have a job etc.

ive been looking for a well established, EU based highend pve guild, but it seems that theyre just not there. or atleast, they dont have recruitment posts.

i would like to hear fellow europeans about this matter, and offcourse everyones elses input is welcome too

Sniper22 · Jul 28, 2009, 04:54 PM // 16:54

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Originally Posted by Spiritweaver

Yes I do. This is from experience, not from thinking. I have already stated my reasons why. Maybe if you read what I posted already you would have seen this.

Now, please show me where all these well established high end PvE guilds are that are mostly European. I would like to see this high percentage. Note, European high end PvE guilds, not top 100 PvP guilds. There is a significant difference there in what the OP is looking for.

Using statistics from a PvP ladder hardly helps here. Also bare in mind that just because the guild was created in Europe it doesn't necessarily mean it is still under European control either.

No, I think you're still missing the point. He's not saying that he should join a pvp guild. 70% of the guild ladder (top 1000) is european while 25% is american. He's saying that those numbers would roughly represent the number of euro and american pve guilds. If you need to find a guild, search or post in the guild lf player/player lf guild section of these forums.

jmyhld · Jul 28, 2009, 07:15 PM // 19:15

fact is however, that most if not all, highend pve guild are american based

Achrr The Archer · Jul 28, 2009, 09:46 PM // 21:46

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Originally Posted by jmyhld

fact is however, that most if not all, highend pve guild are american based

Quote for the truth, but there's still going to be all these pvp people saying "Look at guildwars.com/ladder, just think about it". Anyways like I said before my post got deleted, try to find happy medium with people from EU and America.

Maria Moon · Jul 28, 2009, 10:55 PM // 22:55

Since the change so that you can jump servers easily and as many times as you want, many European guilds have either started advertising in American districts due to the lack of players in European English district or have gone for the mix of American/European guild member approach.

If you really, really want to have a European only guild perhaps try the PvE Looking for Section.

Jecht Scye · Jul 28, 2009, 11:04 PM // 23:04

I'm an American in a guild almost completely composed of Europeans.

Jonii · Jul 29, 2009, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by FireFox

Way to completely miss the point.. do you honestly think that the percentages aren't going to be similar for pve guilds? Do a little thinking..

...Are you argueing that the PvP ladder shows that the OP is lying and that there are more European PvE guilds recruiting than American because there are more good European PvP guilds?

PvE and PvP are largely different parts of the game. It's very possible, especially at this point in GW's lifetime, that the vast majority of guilds would be PvP based after beating campaigns and such, and/or that the PvE guilds have enough members to meet their goals and aren't actively recruiting.

The PvP ladders only show that the European guilds tend to do better in PvP. It's not an accurate way of showing the number of PvE guilds or total European guilds in general.

I'm American, so I'm going to take the OP's word on the fact that he/she can't find what he's/she's looking for. All I can argue is that the PvP ladder isn't a helpful tool in finding a PvE guild.

Copenhagen Master · Jul 29, 2009, 02:23 AM // 02:23

I am actually in LaZy guild and we have alot of players that are from Europe that play with us all the time, even my old guild was mainly European and a couple from Asia area

Spiritweaver · Jul 29, 2009, 02:27 AM // 02:27

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Originally Posted by Sniper22

No, I think you're still missing the point. He's not saying that he should join a pvp guild. 70% of the guild ladder (top 1000) is european while 25% is american. He's saying that those numbers would roughly represent the number of euro and american pve guilds.

Under what basis? Since when do the amount of PvP guilds have any representation of how many PvE guilds there are in the game?

Also, this:

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Originally Posted by Jonii

The PvP ladders only show that the European guilds tend to do better in PvP. It's not an accurate way of showing the number of PvE guilds or total European guilds in general.

arcanemacabre · Jul 29, 2009, 04:06 AM // 04:06

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Originally Posted by Jecht Scye

I'm an American in a guild almost completely composed of Europeans.

Same here.

Also, I'd like to know what exactly "highend PvE guild" means. Does that mean 'hardcore?' As in: guild has voice comm, most players are on many hours a day, frequently doing SC's, dungeons, and elite areas? Or, does it just mean a guild that is of a medium to large size, active, and plays often in high end PvE? If the latter, [As] is definitely that, although some of us can be considered of the former ilk.

This is no offense to my fellow Americans, but I would much rather play with people in other countries. Not for any unpatriotic reasons, I'm just usually playing at off-hours, and the conversation is much more fun instead of just regurgitating popular media. I get enough of that with RL friends.